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    Default Space Time Structure of Physical Existences

    Hello ! I am Zhang zhiqing coming from Dalian in China.
    This is the first time I visit this forum and I am going to introduce some of my works in theorectical research about the universe.

    The works done range from Axiom of Physics ( so called G Gauge) all the way up to Information Entity of the Universe (so called IE of the Universe) , and showcase a sysmetic theory so called Feeding Back Theory of the Universe.
    From now on , I am going to gradually present them to the reader here .
    The first one to be presented is Axiom of Physics.

    Before that , I would like to ask you following question:
    Do you know what is real physical form of an physical existence which is assigned by the sign of its certain physical unit ?
    For instance ,
    For any substance with 1 kg mass assigned by the sign of mass unit , then what is its physical form of the substance with 1 kg mass ? Can we get mathematical expression of its physical form?
    Alike what are physical forms of any physical existences assigned by signs of their physical units? Can we get mathematical expressions of physical forms of these phyiscal existences?
    Obviously No one consider signs of physical units themselvies to be physical forms of physical existence assigned by all those signs of physical units . Thus what the hell are all these physical forms ? What the hell are those mathematical expressions for them?
    Your avaluation and comments to what I shall present are highly appreciated.

    Everyone would agree physical forms of physical existeces (objective existences) are not sign of physical units dessignated to them. Such as,
    sign of kg is not objiective physical form for any substance with one unit of mass
    sign of J is not objective physical form for one unit of energy
    sign of K is not objective physical form for one unit of thermodymatic temperature
    sign of N is not objective physical form for one unit of force
    ......................
    A specific sign of physical unit is used to designate corresponding physical existence but not objective physical form of the existence , then what the hell are physical form of these physical existences in nature being dessignated by those signs of physical units in physics?

    Everyone know that physical forms existed in nature of all those physical existences are absolutely not that of signs of physical units ,but these physical existences do exist in nature. they certainly have its physical forms in nature.
    I want to figure out what kind of components by which these physical existences being designated by signs of physical units really are ?

    May be , all these physical existences are universally consists of several fundamental space time components in a delicate way.

    Is that possible?
    How do you think about this idea ?

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    Joules, temperature, and mass units are simply a means of expressing quantities, aren't they? You can't very well have a negative mass, can you? If you have some fundamental insight into this, please just tell us.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceCadet View Post
    Joules, temperature, and mass units are simply a means of expressing quantities, aren't they? You can't very well have a negative mass, can you? If you have some fundamental insight into this, please just tell us.

    Thank you.
    Why cant you have negative mass?
    http://www.concentric.net/~pvb/negmass.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
    Why cant you have negative mass?
    The physics of negative mass..
    What kind of object can you imagine that would have negative mass? If an object exists, it's almost certainly going to have some mass, or zero mass at least. Of course, this is only common sense, and common sense is not always a good guide to the universe.

    But consider the lines from the very beginning of the article that you posted:

    "The idea of a negative mass is conjectural, since no material object has ever been found that can be shown by experiment to have a negative mass. Nevertheless, it will be shown below that the mass equivalent of the energy in a gravitational field is negative, therefore, it may be instructive to speculate on the physics of negative mass."

    No object, anywhere in the universe, in any experiment, down to the subatomic level and up to the size of the entire universe itself, has ever been found which would so much as hint that such a thing is possible. Perhaps more importantly, I'm not aware of any physical theory in existence that even hints at such a thing. There could very well be such an idea out there that I'm not aware of, but I doubt very much that it would be a mainstream theory or anything more than conjecture, as in the case of this article. Not being a professional string theorist, perhaps there is some strange consequence of a theory such as that which would possibly produce something that weird. I can't say with absolute certainty that there isn't, although I don't recall having ever read about anything like that.

    The "mass equivalence" of a field is not the same thing as the mass of an actual object.

    Anyway, I was just trying to get some idea of what the OP was getting at, and he doesn't seem to be in any hurry to tell us.

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    While I agree with some of your points ... could it be that since negative mass is repulsive that it is hard to detect?

    Also what is mass? why cant there be negative mass? ... it doesnt break any rules of GR.

    http://www.wbabin.net/science/javahery.pdf



    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceCadet View Post
    What kind of object can you imagine that would have negative mass? If an object exists, it's almost certainly going to have some mass, or zero mass at least. Of course, this is only common sense, and common sense is not always a good guide to the universe.

    But consider the lines from the very beginning of the article that you posted:

    "The idea of a negative mass is conjectural, since no material object has ever been found that can be shown by experiment to have a negative mass. Nevertheless, it will be shown below that the mass equivalent of the energy in a gravitational field is negative, therefore, it may be instructive to speculate on the physics of negative mass."

    No object, anywhere in the universe, in any experiment, down to the subatomic level and up to the size of the entire universe itself, has ever been found which would so much as hint that such a thing is possible. Perhaps more importantly, I'm not aware of any physical theory in existence that even hints at such a thing. There could very well be such an idea out there that I'm not aware of, but I doubt very much that it would be a mainstream theory or anything more than conjecture, as in the case of this article. Not being a professional string theorist, perhaps there is some strange consequence of a theory such as that which would possibly produce something that weird. I can't say with absolute certainty that there isn't, although I don't recall having ever read about anything like that.

    The "mass equivalence" of a field is not the same thing as the mass of an actual object.

    Anyway, I was just trying to get some idea of what the OP was getting at, and he doesn't seem to be in any hurry to tell us.

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    To Mr.SpaceCadet :
    Yes , I am willing to disclose them.

    Space Time Structure of Physical existences
    (part one)

    Space Time Configuration of Physical Units
    Every physical existence including those appointed by physical units have its own space time structure ( STS) inherently ,that is , all of them are consists of certain amounts of dimensional spaces and dimensional times ;
    Space time structure of an physcal existence appointed by a specific physical unit (dimA) can be universally expressed mathematically in a way so called space time configuration ,abbrviated by STC(dimA) .
    That is ,
    Given an certtain physical existence appointed by physical unit expressed by , then its space time configuration is


    here ,
    B is larger or equal to |G|=6.67428 e-11 [(NIST2006 observed)
    a,b=-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5.
    m represents an unit of one dimensional space , s represents an unit of one dimensional time .

    For instance :
    STS of one unit of Mass : STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2

    STS of one unit of Energy : STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4

    STS of one unit of Force : STC(N)=|G|m^4s^-4

    STS of one unit of Mometum : STC(p)=|G|m^4s^-3

    STS of one unit of Angular momentum : STC(j)=|G|m^5s^-3

    STS of one unit of Power : STC(W)=|G|m^5s^-5

    STS of one unit of Pressure : STC(P)=|G|m^4s^-4

    STS of one unit of Irradiance : STC(M)=|G|m^-3s^5

    STS of one unit of Vacuum : STC(Va)=|G|m^3

    STS of one unit of Electric intensity : STC(A)=|G|m^3s^-3

    STS of one unit of Charge : STC(C)=|G|m^3s^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric potential : STC(V)=|G|m^2s^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric Field Strength : STC(E)=|G|ms^-2

    STS of one unit of Magnetic flux : STC(Wb)=|G|m^2s^-1

    STS of one unit of Magnetic moment : STC(Mm)=|G|m^5s^-3

    STS of one unit of Mag. field strength : STC(H)=|G|m^2s^-3

    STS of one unit of Mag. Inductance strength : STC(T)=|G|s^-1

    STS of one unit of speed : STC(v)=ms^-1

    STS of one unit of Acceleration : STC(a)=ms^-2

    STS of one unit of Electric resistance : m^-1 s

    STS of one unit of Thermodynamic Temperature :
    STC(K)=22.7773m^4s^-4
    STS of one unit of Substance amount :STC(mol)=am^2s^-1
    here, a is fine structure constant.
    STS of one unit of one dimensional space : STC(L)=m

    STS of one unit of Two dimensional space : STC(S)=m^2

    STS of one unit of Three dimensional space : STC(V)=m^3

    STS of one unit of Four dimensional space : STC(L4)=m^4

    STS of one unit of Five dimensional space :STC(L5)=m^5

    STS of one unit of One dimensional time : STC(T)=s

    STS of one unit of Two dimensional time : STC(T2)=s^2

    STS of one unit of Three dimensional time : STC(T3)=s^3

    STS of one unit of Four dimensional time : STC(T4)=s^4

    STS of one unit of Five dimensional time : STC(T5)=s^5
    STS of an Information :
    here, Pl is an certain cofficient
    STS of an Event :


    (to be continued)
    Last edited by Zhang Zhiqiang; 04-09-2010 at 09:39 PM.

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    Following two sorts of math.expressions have same meaning :

    m^a ----

    s^-b ----

    Bm^as^-b ----

    STC(dimA)=Bm^as^-b ----

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    STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2 ----

    STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4 ----


    STC(A)=|G|m^3s^-3 ----

    STC(C)=|G|m^3s^-2 ----

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    STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2 ----

    STC(J)=|G|m^5s^-4 ----


    STC(A)=|G|m^3s^-3 ----

    STC(C)=|G|m^3s^-2 ----

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    STC(kg)=|G|m^3s^-2 ----


 
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