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    Default Re: No Big Bang

    Quote Originally Posted by MinnYair KyawZwar View Post
    There is no increase or decrease or
    creation or depletion of matters and
    no expansion or contraction of space
    for the Universe as a whole .

    In the realm of infinity ( endlessness , countlessness ,
    measurelessness , limitlessness , shapelessness ) ,
    additions and subtractions do not work .
    Whatever you do ...... there will be no increase or decrease .
    The result is always the same or constant ie. ...... infinity .
    Is that a poem? It is not science?
    You appear to be expressing a belief. Beliefs are fine... but when you want to discuss something on a Science Forum, I think you need to be willing to discuss the scientific processes that lead you to your conclusion, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnYair KyawZwar View Post
    There is no increase or decrease or
    creation or depletion of matters and
    no expansion or contraction of space
    for the Universe as a whole .

    In the realm of infinity ( endlessness , countlessness ,
    measurelessness , limitlessness , shapelessness ) ,
    additions and subtractions do not work .
    Whatever you do ...... there will be no increase or decrease .
    The result is always the same or constant ie. ...... infinity .
    Agreed. However, my basic theory of how the multiverse/universe as a whole works would be somthing like this. When somthing inside the multiverse gets destroyed/consumed like our universe another universe is created. Therefore just like you said "no matter can be destroyed just transformed". Well put MinnYair can i call u Minn for short. Neverfly if you are cant understand the science in this just go back to basics, no offence here. Evaporation water(lakes/seas) turns into gas (transformed)= condensation, the gas collects in the clouds togther and reforms water and we get rain. Nothing destroyed here. Am i wrong? Again our universe is a mere drop of rain in the sea of the infinite multiverse. Which so many people call our universe.😚

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Agreed. However, my basic theory
    You mean "hypothesis."
    A theory is a model that is supported by testing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Neverfly if you are cant understand the science in this just go back to basics, no offence here. Evaporation water(lakes/seas) turns into gas (transformed)= condensation, the gas collects in the clouds togther and reforms water and we get rain. Nothing destroyed here. Am i wrong? Again our universe is a mere drop of rain in the sea of the infinite multiverse. Which so many people call our universe.
    You are not wrong that such a thing as evaporation exists. But equating that to the Cosmos is not accurate.
    Some people might see soap bubbles on water circling a drain and leap to the conclusion that Galaxies are circling drains.
    But the two are absolutely nothing alike. Moreover, not all galaxies form spirals. And what about bar spirals?

    Leaping to conclusions and wild speculations are not Science. They are just imagination.
    Sure, science requires imagination. But that imagination must be tempered by the Scientific Method. If you want to understand the science, you must understand the Scientific Method. Imagination without it is just idle speculation at best and at worst, religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    You mean "hypothesis."
    A theory is a model that is supported by testing.

    You are not wrong that such a thing as evaporation exists. But equating that to the Cosmos is not accurate.
    Some people might see soap bubbles on water circling a drain and leap to the conclusion that Galaxies are circling drains.
    But the two are absolutely nothing alike. Moreover, not all galaxies form spirals. And what about bar spirals?

    Leaping to conclusions and wild speculations are not Science. They are just imagination.
    Sure, science requires imagination. But that imagination must be tempered by the Scientific Method. If you want to understand the science, you must understand the Scientific Method. Imagination without it is just idle speculation at best and at worst, religion.
    You were better at arguing here. Before i knew u were hypocritical. Confused u said you belived in dark energy/matter then u say you dont believe. So thats ok by you. Minn is way closer to the truth than you will ever understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    You were better at arguing here. Before i knew u were hypocritical. Confused u said you belived in dark energy/matter then u say you dont believe. So thats ok by you. Minn is way closer to the truth than you will ever understand.
    I never said I "believed in" Dark Matter. If you think I have: Quote it.
    Good luck...

    I have only ever said I do not "Believe in" Dark Matter. I have only ever said that a person can accept a current model as valid until evidence provides a better model.
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    Default Re: No Big Bang

    I tried to quote it but being a moderator(MOD) has its benefits doesn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    I tried to quote it but being a moderator(MOD) has its benefits doesn't it.
    Ok... sure. Now you are going to claim that being a Moderator somehow now means that I can magically block your ability to quote?
    Even the Admin and Site owner cannot do that. The software is not set up that way.
    You can even visit the vBulletin Forum board and check.
    Take a Screenshot and post that if you have forgotten how to use the parsed quote tags.
    --Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges--
    “Science needs the light of free expression to flourish. It depends on the fearless questioning of authority, and the open exchange of ideas.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson

    "When photons interact with electrons, they are interacting with the charge around a "bare" mass, and thus the interaction is electromagnetic, hence light. This light slows the photon down." - BuleriaChk

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