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    Quote Originally Posted by grapes View Post
    Sounds to you like?

    The reason you think you're not getting any respect here in this thread is not because I wouldn't offer any. It's because now you're lying and you know it.
    What a lier. Everybody knows they say all the time it's their house.
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    What a lier. Everybody knows they say all the time it's their house.
    Then it should be easy for you to link to a couple posts where a mod has said BAUT belongs to anyone other than Phil or Fraser. If you can, I'll eat my words. If you can't...what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grapes View Post
    If you can't...what?
    It means I'm not a member and can't use the search function and I won't be tasked by you to dredge through to find them. It also means that your denials are so absurd that I can be certain that no one but you thinks your denials fool anyone. It also means that even if I did have access to the search function there (not that I want to) and posted a thousand of them it would still mean nothing to you.

    I'm not posting to get the mods to change. They're hopeless. I'm posting to members to recognize the situation as it occurs and to abandon forums that abuse members.
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    I see Pzkpfw is on the warpath again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    I'm posting to members to recognize the situation as it occurs and to abandon forums that abuse members.
    Members of which forum?

    If it's BAUT members, well, do you think they all read this forum and will "abandon" BAUT because of what you write here?

    And if you mean members of this forum, well, they're already here, aren't they? Why not just make this place nice to be? Why not just let members decide for themselves if they like it here, or there, or both places, or whatever?

    (You write "forums". Are you going to start looking at forums other than BAUT? For example JREF? ...)


    Again, this all seems like an unhealthy obsession, rather than anything constructive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananas View Post
    Members of which forum?

    If it's BAUT members, well, do you think they all read this forum and will "abandon" BAUT because of what you write here?

    And if you mean members of this forum, well, they're already here, aren't they? Why not just make this place nice to be? Why not just let members decide for themselves if they like it here, or there, or both places, or whatever?

    (You write "forums". Are you going to start looking at forums other than BAUT? For example JREF? ...)


    Again, this all seems like an unhealthy obsession, rather than anything constructive.
    No, it's called critical thinking.
    There you go again. What is the unhealthy obsession you have that you wish to childishly disparage criticism of BAUT? I don't see you doing that to other critics (well I do but it's not about criticism in general). Upon what principle do you absolve BAUT of any criticism? You're not answering that question.

    I do think some people here are members at BAUT too and that they will carry the message back there. Even if not directly then indirectly by carrying the principle that can be seen as right.

    When I point out to a mod that a discussion is about airships not airplanes and he doesn't admit his mistake but another mod (to childishly evade a charge of non impartiality) posts that by defending my position in the thread "so vigorously" I'm "sounding ATM" and he gets away with it that dishonest precident becomes another trick they can get away with. They call them rules but the're tricks. They have so many tricks that I think that a description and discussion of them in detail unfettered by mod interferance is an intelligent method of analyzing the phenomenon.

    I think a whole forum for such analysis would be helpfull so each point of the phenomenon can be handled in seperate threads as we know multiple discussions in one thread makes a thread unwieldy.

    If the admins here don't want to make such a forum I see no reason to allow this thread become so unwieldy. And they get their way again.
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    Google probably works better than the forum search function anyway. When I tried to search for "airships" in posts by astrotech or aastrotech, I got nothing. Do you have more to go on?

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    Grapes I know you're just going to respond in effect that it doesn't matter to you but try flying car.

    While you're at it look up where I asked how Hub's gobeldegook was appropriate for the telescopes and equipment forum. That one got me a suspension "his posts are a 'special case'" so sayeth the mod.. But by then the mods were just looking for excuses to rack up some easy points on old aastrotech. Or hoiw about the time when I was criticising how the mods handled a thread without being specifica as to the thread (against the "rules you know". So pzkpfw's sock puppet did a search on a phrase used in the original thread and posted a link to the thread and pzkpfw locked the criticism thread. This all doesn't even count how things are done in PM. Their dishonesty in public pales in comparrison to how they are in PM.
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    Here's the flying car thread: Here's how you build a flying car.

    Moose is the only moderator commenting in the thread. Henrik used to be a moderator, but I don't think he was at the time of the thread. The conversation in the thread seems a little confused.

    I didn't find anything searching for "gobeldegook" or "gobbledegook". Any other suggestions there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    No, it's called critical thinking.
    I'm not arguing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    There you go again. What is the unhealthy obsession you have that you wish to childishly disparage criticism of BAUT?
    I've seen that you like to fling comments like "childish" at people, but what exactly is childish about my posts? (As opposed to your own "critical thinking").

    Here, I'm just responding to your thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    I don't see you doing that to other critics (well I do but it's not about criticism in general).
    I haven't seen anyone here start a thread quite like this. Can you point one out?

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    Upon what principle do you absolve BAUT of any criticism? You're not answering that question.
    Where have I absolved BAUT of criticism? I don't think I've said anywhere here that they are good, bad or neutral. (Frankly, here in this forum, I don't see BAUT or any other forum as being of particular interest).

    I'm only commenting on your thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    I do think some people here are members at BAUT too and that they will carry the message back there. Even if not directly then indirectly by carrying the principle that can be seen as right.

    When I point out to a mod that a discussion is about airships not airplanes and he doesn't admit his mistake but another mod (to childishly evade a charge of non impartiality) posts that by defending my position in the thread "so vigorously" I'm "sounding ATM" and he gets away with it that dishonest precident becomes another trick they can get away with. They call them rules but the're tricks. They have so many tricks that I think that a description and discussion of them in detail unfettered by mod interferance is an intelligent method of analyzing the phenomenon.
    Yes, again, it seems you just can't let go of some slight on some web forum that has no real relevance to your actual life.

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    I think a whole forum for such analysis would be helpfull so each point of the phenomenon can be handled in seperate threads as we know multiple discussions in one thread makes a thread unwieldy.

    If the admins here don't want to make such a forum I see no reason to allow this thread become so unwieldy. And they get their way again.
    "phenomenon"? Yes, still making it sound like a bigger deal than it is. And the focus on BAUT still makes it sound like an obsession.
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