Would you be more convinced if I were to offer you the thousand of videos all say much the same thing, but from many different perspectives? Might that change your word from "I don't think it's a single spectrum" into something more realistic, such as "Oh my God, I had no idea of the horrors and atrocities committed under the name of socialism!"
Between 135 Million and 600 Million dead. We don't know. Records weren't kept. Compare that to the 6 million Jews, of the 15 Million sympathizers who died during the Holocaust. Wow. Some 22 to 600 MILLION dead. Thanks to socialism. That's ten TIMES more than everyone who has died in every war known to mankind to date.
Do you REALLY want to continue to support this unbelievably vast level of mass destruction? Are you that crass? That anti-American?
The Nazis were National Socialists so you can't really exclude those who died at their hands from the millions you say were killed in the name of socialism.
Bullets don't kill people - people do.
The number of people killed in the name of imperialism is far greater. (let's start from the foundation of the Greek City States - arbitrarily)
The Romans were particularly mean in Gaul. They loved their war machine.
1066 - The Normans arrive in England (or whatever it was called at the time) and steal everything, and they could do it because they had a better army than any of the opposition. Might makes Right!
The Europeans fought each other for possession of Europe for the next 500 years, pausing only for siesta, making babies and afternoon tea.
Then they fought each other for possession of the rest of the world while slaughtering anyone that got in their way.
Socialism hadn't even been invented yet.
(I wonder, are tribal peoples socialist?)
The indigenous people in the lands stolen by the European Imperialists didn't do too well.
Do you own land? Who did you buy it from? and who did they buy it from? . . . and who did they steal it from?
For me, socialism is the Co-Op where I buy my groceries.
The Electricity Board, The Gas Board, The Coal Board, British Rail. These were formed when governments in this country (UK) puchased - sometime compulsorily - private companies, at a time when there wasn't enough private investment to meet the national needs of industrialisation. Capitalists profited from Nationalisation.
Some years later, Privatisation of those Utilities (and Water!!!!) was by selling shares - all the people could buy shares (a share entitlement at a preferred rate) - and millions did - and the poor sell their shares immediately, they need the money. The wealthy buy them even though the price drops. They can afford to hold them until the price goes up. The quite poor sell their shares quickly in case the price drops below the preferred rate price they paid. The wealthy buy them. The price drops and, of course, when the share price drops the company must increase the selling price of the commodity to increase its profit to make its shares more desirable. This hurts the poor more than the wealthy.
Capitalists profited from Privatisation.
So Here's The Truth.
Nature is Red in Tooth and Claw (Competitive) - Nature is an Inter-dependant Network of Life and Death (Co-operative)
Both are True
In a free society with a free market, the honest businessman will be less profitable than the dishonest businessman and, in the long-term, will be driven out of business. The only way to completely stop this from happening (in the absence of Socialist Priciples) is to have 100% efficient policing.
I work for a charity, helping and supporting young people. I do a skilled job; three days a week, for minimum wage. I have done this for 12 years. That is socialism.
The nature of perception, conception and the human condition of being variously conscious of the actions of mind ensures that we all live in fantasy. You don't seem to recognise this.
(I have to re-quote you, here) -
I have not voiced any support for killing people - I am almost certain I have not exhibited crassness in any of my posts on this forum (nor rudeness, nor vulgarity) - I don't think I'm anti-American. Some of my best friends are Americans. (Oh My God! I might be an Americophobe!)Do you REALLY want to continue to support this unbelievably vast level of mass destruction? Are you that crass? That anti-American?
Actually, none of my best friends are American. I lied. I did know one, once. She was a really nice person.
Oh, wait, no, she was from Newfoundland. That's near America, isn't it?