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    An ancient greek tale begins with a boy and his mother who's husband had been killed. The king, lusting for the mother who spurned him, sought to rid her of the protection of her son so he could take her by force. He thus passed a law levying draconian taxes on the citizenry. But with the common pleading of lack of enforcement resources did not enforce the law. The citizery did not oppose the law since it was not enforced. But the king did demand the tax from one person. Guess who. Lacking the money to pay the tax and unable to find alies to oppose the law from the populace who didn't want the law enforced upon them the son was banished.

    This tactic sound familiar? It should. It's a very common corruption. Anyone from BASMO ring any bells?

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    You referring to Basmo, as in the fort in the path of invading Swedish troops during Charles XIIís second unsuccessful invasion in 1718?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    You referring to Basmo, as in the fort in the path of invading Swedish troops during Charles XII’s second unsuccessful invasion in 1718?
    No. I was referring to corruption of law. You know, the thing you did when you enforced it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    No. I was referring to corruption of law. You know, the thing you did when you enforced it.
    I never enforced it, except perhaps on a global scale (military). We certainly didn't corrupt it!

    So if that's not what you meant by BASMO, may I dare ask: What do you mean by BASMO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    I never enforced it, except perhaps on a global scale (military). We certainly didn't corrupt it!

    So if that's not what you meant by BASMO, may I dare ask: What do you mean by BASMO?
    Something wrong with your mind? We've already discussed this. You know what it means. That you would ask as if you don't know I just take as a setup for some dishonest plan of yours as is typical for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    Something wrong with your mind? We've already discussed this. You know what it means. That you would ask as if you don't know I just take as a setup for some dishonest plan of yours as is typical for you.
    Not a thing. You, on the other hand, appear more interesting in demeaning others, so you're back on ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    Not a thing. You, on the other hand, appear more interesting in demeaning others, so you're back on ignore.
    Fools like you demean yourselves. I'm just mentioning the topic of the day. In this case it happens to be the fool Mugaliens.

    As I said it was about identifying and demeaning corruption of the law. But you made it about your foolishness and your use of foolishness to obscure a discussion about corruption of law. It became about you as you were a corrupt law keeper. Of course currently you also lobby for corruptable laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    I never enforced it, except perhaps on a global scale (military). We certainly didn't corrupt it!
    You were corrupt as an enforcer of the rules here. Exposure of your corruption has already occured as you are aware with you always skulking off and ignoring any responsability your statement is a lie and evasive of the meaning of my meaning on its face.

    So lets disparage your military too.

    Your statement 1 "I never enforced it, except perhaps on a global scale (military).". Gunman you are either a criminal, a law enforcer or a hunter. Hunting humans makes you a criminal unless sanctioned by law. In which case you were a law enforcer. There are no exceptions for scope. So that first statement is a lie on its face and evasive in intent.

    Your second statment. "We certainly didn't corrupt it!" can be taken 2 ways. It was corrupt when you got there so you didn't corrupt it. However the use of "we" means you don't refer to yourself. You refer to the organization. To claim the organization was corrupt when the organization got there makes no sense. So your claim must mean it is not a corrupt organization.

    Corruption is dependant on who defines it and there are those who always carve out exceptions no matter how its defined. Criminal corruption of the military is always dismissed as aberation rather than exemplary of organizational corruption. Since the organization is cloistered any example of corruption has to be made from available outside evidence.

    So taking a definition of corruption as corruption of fairness. Is there oganizational corruption of fairness? How about fairness in advancement? Why are generals most often rich rather than rank and file soldiers rising through the ranks? If any organization exemplifies the need to perform as a condition of functionality there should be no disproportionate representation of the rich in the general staff. Any economic class should be able to perform as well as anyone else and rise through the ranks in proportion to their representation in the population. So the disproportionate representation of the rich in the general staff is evidence of systemic organizational corruption at the highest ranks of the military.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You were corrupt...
    When it comes to my military service, you're completely unaware of what I did, how I did it, or why. Thus, when you claim I was corrupt, the only thing to which you are attesting is that you are completely and totally full of shit.

    This also says boatloads about your complete and utter lack of integrity.

    Good day. You're back on ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You were corrupt....
    The whole quote in context without mugaliens lying misquote was of course
    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You were corrupt as an enforcer of the rules here.
    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    When it comes to my military service,
    It didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    you're completely unaware of what I did, how I did it, or why. Thus, when you claim I was corrupt,
    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You were corrupt as an enforcer of the rules here.
    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    the only thing to which you are attesting is that you are completely and totally full of shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You were corrupt as an enforcer of the rules here.
    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    This also says boatloads about your complete and utter lack of integrity.

    Good day. You're back on ignore.
    It says boatloads about what a liar you are.
    Lies have the stench of death and defeat.

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