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    Default Then there's the thorium argument...

    A lot of people are claiming "Thorium is the answer! You can't build nukes from thorium!"

    WRONG.

    Here's why:

    Thorium reactors use natural thorium, which is isotope 232. There are a lot of neutrons running around in there; itís how reactors work. If an atom of thorium 232 absorbs a neutron, it becomes isotope 233. Some will fission, but some wonít.

    Thorium 233 beta decays (HL 22 minutes) to proactinium 233, which beta decays (HL 27 days) to uranium 233.

    Uranium 233 is fissionable, and you can make bombs out of it. And the best part of all is that it can be purified chemically out of the spent fuel of the thorium reactor. You donít have to mess around with gas diffusion or centrifuges.

    If, as some propose, thereís a thorium reactor buried in every backyard, you could face the possibility of pretty much any dedicated extremist being able to build nuclear weapons. - Source: Uranium News, "Yes you can make nuclear weapons from thorium, as well as from uranium"

    So, what's the solution? The same as it's always been, ever since Ug and Og started beating on one another. Og was a bully, and took from hard-working Ug things which didn't belong to him. Ug put up with it for a while, but Og was taking most things, leaving Ug with little on which to survive. Because he was doing all the work, however, Ug realized he'd become a lean, mean, fighting machine, while Og had grown fat and stupid. One day, Ug came across a bigger stick, and the next time Og demanded the fruits of his labor, Ug let him have it.

    Put simply, carry a bigger stick and don't be afraid to use it. As the good book says, "spare the rod, spoil the child." If a nation is acting like a child, tell them in no uncertain terms, "If you act in a responsible manner, you will be treated accordingly. If you act like a spoiled child, you will be treated like a spoiled child."

    When warring elements are acting like ISIS, it's time to bomb them back to the stone age, if not well into oblivion. We can NEVER tolerate that crap in our world, as it's a disease that just keeps on growing.
    My oath of office never expires. "God, who gave us life, gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" - Thomas Jefferson. "I have far too long suffered fools. No longer will I tolerate the insufferable. Enjoy the vacuum." - Mugs

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    Default Re: Armed Store Keeps Prevent Damage/Looting in Ferguson Riots

    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    Given the fact Iran has repeatedly avowed to use nuclear weapons, should they ever achieve them,on the United States of America that fact and your statement makes you either a liar (false accusations) or an imbecile (total failure with respect to basic facts and logic).

    Which is it, astrotech: Are you the real liar, here, or merely an imbecile?
    Talking about what they would do IF is not the same as POINTING. You are a liar and imbecile.

    In fact people like you are threatening them with pre-emptive strikes even though they don't even have nukes. People like you have struck justifying it with lies against people who didn't even have them. Who didn't even have the capability of making them. Struck even though inspectors who know the massiveness of the industrial base needed to make them were saying they didn't have them.
    Lies have the stench of death and defeat.

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    Default Re: Armed Store Keeps Prevent Damage/Looting in Ferguson Riots

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    You are a liar and imbecile.
    The only evidence you've provided to substantiate this claim, astrotech, keeps painting you as both the liar and the imbecile. You clearly have no clue as to what's been going on throughout the Middle East since the middle of the 20th Century, much less since Mohammed woke up, raped his 9-year old "wife," and penned another verse in the Quran.

    Grow a fucking brain, man.

    In the meantime, for those readers on this forum who actually have a brain and can conduct proper logical discourse without running around like a spoiled three-year-old calling everyone they disagree with a "liar...":

    I keep my doors and windows locked, so the only way anyone can enter my house is by breaking in. In accordance with the Castle Laws in our State, I'm fully authorized to use deadly force in response to their breaking in. Even so, I'm a patient man, so I'll point my firearm at them, place them under arrest, and direct their actions to get down on the ground and place their hands over their head while I call 911. If they deviate in any way which I deem a threat, they're done.

    Again, commensurate with the laws in my State, I carry a firearm with me wherever I go. Carrying firearms is authorized. Pointing a firearm at another individual is not authorized, as it's assault with a deadly weapon. Remember, one doesn't have to harm another person to assault them. The credible threat of harm is sufficient. Therefore, if some is pointing their firearm at me, thereby committing assault with a deadly weapon, I am fully authorized to use deadly for in response. In this situation, however, I'm not going to hesitate, because I have no idea whether they will pull the trigger or not. If I hesitate and they pull the trigger, I'm dead. Sucks to be them, but geez Louise, too bad -- they shouldn't go around pointing a firearm at other people.

    Pointing a firearm at others, along with deadly force, IS authorized when you're defending life, limb, and property.

    Over the last quarter of a century, I've carried a firearm both on and off duty at least 5,000 occasions. Not once have I ever encountered any need to draw my firearm. Not once have I ever had a firearm pointed at me.

    Meanwhile, Piers Morgan and all who love him remain blithering idiots:

    HOW PIERS MORGAN LIES.jpg

    Back to Astrotech's false accusations (lies):

    In fact people like you are threatening them with pre-emptive strikes even though they don't even have nukes.
    This is patently false ergo false accusation ergo a lie.

    Now, some people may be threatening them with preemptive strikes. I, however, am not, so the "like you" accusation is a blatant lie.

    People like you...
    There you go with that "like you" shit. Same old shit, astrotech. I know you're tired of wallowing in shit, living a life a shit, but must you sling your shit at others? That's just unbelievably pathetic. Only monkeys sling their poo.

    ]quote]...have struck...[/quote]

    Never have, and the rest of your drivel is equally inapplicable, so I'll stop here.
    Last edited by mugaliens; 08-25-2014 at 01:02 PM.
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    Default Re: Armed Store Keeps Prevent Damage/Looting in Ferguson Riots

    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post

    There you go with that "like you" shit.
    People like you who lie and mislead anyone ignorant or dishonest enough to follow you.

    People like you who parrot the same lies to the same nationalist, militarist, racist, antiintellectual and greedy ends that are spouted on every right wing media outlet in the US.

    The lie (among many) on this topic being that Iran has ,or will have in 6 months the capability of achieving fissile purity sufficient to make a bomb and that we should attack to prevent it. According to the right wingnuts "they" (meaning everyone the right wants to attack) have been 6 months from a bomb for the past 15 years.

    How far is Irac from a bomb? Not six months, 600 billion dollars from having a bomb.
    Last edited by astrotech; 08-25-2014 at 10:17 PM.
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    Default Re: Armed Store Keeps Prevent Damage/Looting in Ferguson Riots

    Quote Originally Posted by astrotech View Post
    People like you...
    blah-blah, blah, mwah-mwah mwah, mwah, mwah mwah mwah.

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    My oath of office never expires. "God, who gave us life, gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" - Thomas Jefferson. "I have far too long suffered fools. No longer will I tolerate the insufferable. Enjoy the vacuum." - Mugs

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    Default Re: Armed Store Keeps Prevent Damage/Looting in Ferguson Riots

    The common reply of the ignorant, inarticulate degenerate.

    Quote Originally Posted by mugaliens View Post
    blah-blah, blah, mwah-mwah mwah, mwah, mwah mwah mwah.

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    Default Re: Can Iran produce its own nuclear fuel?

    I don't know what god would allow. If Iran wants to waste time and energy (pardon the pun) on fizzle, I'm not concerned. It's generating mistrust that develops the need to worry in the first place.

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    Default Re: Can Iran produce its own nuclear fuel?

    Why is it always the same guys arguing with each other here? Why do I still have an Asian porn site in a pop up?

    Ok, all that aside, I want you guys to think about this. The balance of power in the middle east has ALWAYS been a nuclear Israel backed by the U.S.

    Iran's stated goal is to remove Israel from the map. I know, original, right?

    The very second Iran obtains a warhead, the world goes to war.

    Israel has been pleading with us for years now, and we just shine them on like it ain't happening.

    North Korea is a much poorer state and they managed an estimated 8 warheads, delivery systems can only be guessed at.

    Iran is richer and very determined.

    If you rely on God to keep Iran nuclear weapon free, then relax and enjoy ww3

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    Yeah, I don't care what Israel does either. A light weight electronic delivery system belongs in the public sphere. It's their own problem if Israel's whole existence relies on that dispersal falling short. So what if my opinions leave something to be desired?
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    Default Re: Can Iran produce its own nuclear fuel?

    I don't understand what you mean.

    Astrotech and Mug need to chill lol

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