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    I think we should not divert from main topic. I am an Indian native with Marathi as my mothertounge/primary language. When we speak as a human in general your language,religious teaching,or personal opinion does not hold value. If anyone is spying , what will they get? The truth will remain truth only...we have to have lot of discussions,debates to know the truth. There is general tendency in my country to consider any valuable saint as God instead of focusing on his teaching. I know that because of this view foreigners labelled them as 'blind followers' ..Yes it is true. But what happens in this case, not my indian followers nor scholer foreigners go through works/literature created by them.I think not only Indian Saints but also foreigners Saint literature is one source to study and analyze.This is one part.Second part is take help of modern science and technology to find relationship between brain and mind..or to come with proof yes mind and brain are name of brain only. ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abhijit@spacetime View Post
    I think we should not divert from main topic. I am an Indian native with Marathi as my mothertounge/primary language. When we speak as a human in general your language,religious teaching,or personal opinion does not hold value. If anyone is spying , what will they get? The truth will remain truth only...we have to have lot of discussions,debates to know the truth. There is general tendency in my country to consider any valuable saint as God instead of focusing on his teaching. I know that because of this view foreigners labelled them as 'blind followers' ..Yes it is true. But what happens in this case, not my indian followers nor scholer foreigners go through works/literature created by them.I think not only Indian Saints but also foreigners Saint literature is one source to study and analyze.This is one part.Second part is take help of modern science and technology to find relationship between brain and mind..or to come with proof yes mind and brain are name of brain only. ..
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    When I was in college in a course in rational psychology, I was very impressed with what I learned in that course.

    The professor tells us that there is the person who is in charge of his mind and his body.

    Now, the mind is the faculty of thinking as a person thinks with his mind, its database is memory.

    The body is the work machine of the person; the body is a better or not as good a machine, depending on what nature endows the person with what body, a good one or not so good; but every person must for his own sake train his body to be a good machine, to work for himself the person to achieve what he i.e. the person wants to accomplish.

    So, the person, that is the subject agent of all the activities of the mind and of the body, and it is the will which is the most important faculty for the person, it is by his will that the person decides and intends to do or not do what he thinks to be good for himself, and accordingly employs his body to work under his direction to attain the end proposed by his mind and willed by the person to achieve.

    So, if I may, the mind and the body and the person are three components in one entity, the human being.

    What about consciousness? That is the state in which a person is aware of his existence and of his mind's thinking and his will choosing or rejecting to choose.

    What about the existence of the person with a mind and a body and of course a will, and in consciousness?

    The existence of the person consists in his consciousness, so that if a person is not conscious at all even just temporarily, then he does not exist for the time duration when he is without consciousness.

    If he never returns to consciousness and but he is not dead, then he still does not exist as a person, but as something like a vegetable.

    So, consciousness is very important, the more you are conscious the more you have existence, and the more you have consciousness or awareness of things the more is the span of your existence.


    What do you guys say?

    The big question is whether the person exists when he is dead in his body, in his mind/brain, and in his will?

    That is where the soul comes in.

    All religions and schools of spirituality postulate the existence of the soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadrunner View Post
    Ask yourself this instead, if you were in a coma, would it hurt if I hit you?

    In this case, I would agree that mind is now separate from body.
    I would argue that the mind was operating in safe mode.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abhijit@spacetime View Post
    Does MIND exists as a separate entity? Or it is just illusion our brain makes?
    Well.
    If a computer is a desktop PC, the mind is the operating system.
    Not the best analogy, but I think most would see my point.
    Unlike the ability to write software and then program it onto a computer, the mind and the brain that develops it cannot exist separately. Even if, in a thousand years or so, our medical knowledge of this extremely complex organ were advance to the point where we could make a copy of a persons mind, we would have little success in transferring to another medium- even another brain - because the "mind/brain" is so dependent on other functions of the body. The hormonal balance, electrical balance and lymphatic system...
    Well, some drugs can pretty radically alter who a person is. Damage to the brain can as well. It's one of the primary factors in why it is absurd to think there can be a spirit or soul to go on after death. Without the brain, how can there be any you at all, much less the rest of your body as a whole?
    OF course this could lead to quite a few interesting tangents but...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    I would argue that the mind was operating in safe mode.

    Well.
    If a computer is a desktop PC, the mind is the operating system.
    Not the best analogy, but I think most would see my point.
    Unlike the ability to write software and then program it onto a computer, the mind and the brain that develops it cannot exist separately. Even if, in a thousand years or so, our medical knowledge of this extremely complex organ were advance to the point where we could make a copy of a persons mind, we would have little success in transferring to another medium- even another brain - because the "mind/brain" is so dependent on other functions of the body. The hormonal balance, electrical balance and lymphatic system...
    Well, some drugs can pretty radically alter who a person is. Damage to the brain can as well. It's one of the primary factors in why it is absurd to think there can be a spirit or soul to go on after death. Without the brain, how can there be any you at all, much less the rest of your body as a whole?
    OF course this could lead to quite a few interesting tangents but...


    Since no one is around anymore... I guess I need have little concern of picking a fight...
    I think we have a sense of self importance which leads us to the belief that our minds/souls are independent of our bodies. In that we find it difficult to accept our own mortality. We feel we need to be something more than just being biological machines.
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