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    Does MIND exists as a separate entity? Or it is just illusion our brain makes?

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    So, if my mind says your beautiful 17 year old sister is just too young for me, but my body disagrees ...which one would you beat up?

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    Off course I would beat the body to extreme end. But now considering the 'point' I would like to ask you further.SO AFTER BEATING BODY,has your mind punished? No...you are again free to think/imagine whatever your mind wants..THIS ITSELF PROVES MIND IS DIFFERENT INVISIBLE ENTITY...IS IT NOT?

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    I understand that english is not your first language so I will point out that I think you meant indivisible, not invisible. Invisable is not being able to see said object which is INVISABLE, not apparent to sight.

    Not making fun of you. Many Shaolin, bhudist and Hindu mystics would argue otherwise, but for us normal humans, no, the mind and body are one.

    Ask yourself this instead, if you were in a coma, would it hurt if I hit you?

    In this case, I would agree that mind is now separate from body.

    Can you think of other instances?
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    After re-reading your post, I think what you wanted to ask was, CAN the mind exist separately from the body.

    In all honesty, I think we ALL would like to know the answer to that.

    Personally, I don't know outside of the instance I stated.

    Good question, thank you.
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    As you have mentioned coma case,yes it is true that we can not understand. But understanding happens only when we get fully awaked. During coma stage mind might have experienced that thing,but it is possible we could not recollect it..How many times we can recollect our night dream?..not everytime...only times when we are not fast asleep...I have bought up in atmosphere where self being(aatma), mind, and body are considered three separate entities...It is quite possible that this doctrine is quite false. I am open to any view. That's why I wanted to know different views. When we say ourselves(mind) yes I m fine,nothing is going to hurt me..i.e, I remain positive..my body also responses well....it means something when you determine in mind,body responses accordingly..No....I would like to cite analogy. The sofware we use to run our applications on desktop or laptop,cell..here In order to run any application, I need not necessarily to have master in software degree.I can get along,without knowing ABC of software..Here ..Hardware (cpu,laptop,cell) is my 'body'..I can see..visualize..application is ' brain' to get things done. Software is 'mind' ...the better the software, the better is my application..and finally power or energy required to whole system is 'I'...the energy has no feelings.It just does the work.Mind has feelings.again brain has no feelings. It just follows the path laid by mind..��
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    I respect you gentlemen for stating your views.. It's a interesting subject that has many roads to travel to gain a complete understanding..
    I will en devour to explain the purest form of understanding I can relate to; The scientific view.
    That we have such a broad base of contributors we are unlikely to find resolve.. We are different. This can be a asset.

    [ My formative years were in Southeastern China. The Haicheng Provence and Beihai. I lived with some Buddhist monks until 1969 when I was 17.
    I have lived in New Zealand since then.. but have traveled and worked in many places..]

    English was not my native language and I still slip up from time to time.
    ~ If I seem slow.. its just my way of understanding the rest of you dyslexic and strange people.. Lol I am foreign.
    That this subject interests me is obvious.. All of the 'religious' conversations are a moth light to me.. However...
    ~ I can not separate the mind and brain.. Brain being the name of that part of your anatomy that houses your mind.. Motor function and memory and self aware.
    " It can not be without, when it's within.."
    That the mind and soul are that part of your brain function that determines who you are. It was built of experiences and indoctrinated learning..
    The education of your life.. No two are the same. No download plug, no USB port.. Not even blue tooth compatible. I find no truths scientific of out of body experience. No soul, no spirit. Just who you are.. and have learned to be. Yes the mind is real. It is that part of you whom you are... Withdraw the blood flow to the brain and unfortunately it just starts to breakdown.. All of that which is you will at death be gone. dead. That unfortunate reality is for me.. easy.
    Yes a, 100% atheist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by astromark View Post
    ~ If I seem slow.. its just my way of understanding the rest of you dyslexic and strange people.. Lol I am foreign.
    That this subject interests me is obvious.. All of the 'religious' conversations are a moth light to me.. However....
    Ok let me just check this to see if I'm right.

    I'm assuming you speak Chinese as a native language, yet you speak better English than I do. I can barely speak my own language.

    You seem to grasp concepts in a foreign language ...way faster than I do...

    I know I am ignorant on many things yet try to appear confident and knowledgeable, whereas you manage to be humble, knowledgeable and probably a better basketball player than most of us...

    Um, yeah, you're slow. You should probably refrain from participating on any forum ...



    Just on the off chance you DIDN'T catch that I was joking, ...I was just joking, ;p.

    I also like the fact the you are a bit older than me, lol.
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    ~ Does the mind exist as a separate entity.. well sometimes I wish it did, and that it had a external download function..
    My memory does not serve me as well as I would want. Experience has shown me to tell the truth all of the time.
    That way I do not need to remember who I told what.. I also do not tend to be secretive.

    I am careful not to be too open to the risks of the internet odd bods.. those that lurk and try to embarrass.
    Internet bullies are real.. Over in the other forum I noticed a anti-gun control group.
    Very bad tempered and hostile to any ideas not held by them.. and I now ovoid them..
    Some of them came after me online as they thought me a Chines agent or whatever..So some times, just for fun.. I wind them up

    ~ As what I call logic does not let me imagine a out of body existence.. We are animals and as such are not able to be spiritual or higher than reality lets us be..
    Neural pathways and synopsis of the brain are not the same in any two people.. as a child grows and learns. different connections are opened.
    I have not found any truth of spirituality. Everything we are and perceive is of reality.. What imaginations can do is everything else..
    I do however strive to be tolerant of views other than mine. But of coarse my view is always right.. Yea-right..Pfft.. I wish.. and thanks for your kindness shown..

    * return to add; I used the word higher yet denies there is one. Just as I promote a spirited argument yet denies a spirit exists.
    No ghosts, no soul, no spirit. No entity of reality that is not tissue and flesh..and bones.
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    Who hurt you, man?

    If the universe is all energy, space, and time, that will ever exist, pictured as a whole, a construct starting from zero information to maximum information, any slice might represent a portion of your life.

    And if this construct always exists, so do you and I...ALWAYS.

    Do we get chances to change our fate? Who knows, I hope so, but hope makes us human.

    Btw, we ALL know that Chinese agents come to unregulated internet forums to spy...it is where they get their best information lmao.

    I hope I don't come off as a bully and I agree we should have gun control, ...I don't hunt to feed my family and if I did, I wouldn't need ak-47's and Mac 10 auto weapons.
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