Thread: Black Hole as Transversal Window

It needs a little wind up to get the idea off the ground..Some fallow came bounding in and suggested that
the whole universe might be many, and like bubbles in a bath and that you might be able to travel from one to another through Black Holes...

My mind is like a clockwork toy... I can get wound up but I want to talk of 'that other forum'

I just got told off for this...; when I replied to his stupid idea...

Originally Posted by astromark
Knowing what is a 'BLACK HOLE'... makes this and these ideas observed to be ridiculous as a concept..

Not a single strand of real science, none. The subject when treated as a religious faith is worthless rubbish..

I, challenge any and all to present to me information that might support such as is written of in this regard..

You can not. You will at best tell lies of what might be... in a work of FICTION.. thats all it is. Thats all it can ever be.

This is a forum of science. Not science fiction.

and one of the moderators came at me with ' Too rude' To much angriness' I will post his reply.. next..

and after one or two entered and sounded agreement with me and one against. This 'mod' said; and I quote it thus;

Infraction given. astromark, this is far too angry and far too rude. You are in essence correct (that's my opinion not necessarily an official BAUT stance) but you have a very bad habit of making this kind of strongly worded absolute "this is all rubbish!" post - and you do it too often. Next time the infraction will be bigger, and your current total is already pretty high.

Everybody else, let's not go further on this, please.".....end quote...

I might be mistaken in that my understanding of things said and meant are not always clear... but also claim that my comprehension is excellent..

Anyway.. Its not all that too and fro ing that I want to discuss.. ( there's little point.)

I do want to know if HIS idea has ANY science to it.. ?

I saw one of the other contributors comment that we can not know of black holes and singularities..

To that I would argue to know a great deal about what 'might be found inside the event horizon of a BH.

I am now asking.. not for your support but your opinions.. please ?

The following link will take you to that other conversation.. the one I do not feel safe in...

http://www.bautforum.com/showthread....new-Universe-s

The way I heard the story (and a little googling bears me out), Carl Sagan was writing Contact, and asked Kip Thorne how to transport Ellie to distant stars and come back with no time passage, and Thorne came up with the old idea of wormholes. Thorne then went on to write a book, Black holes and Timewarps, Einstein's Outrageous Legacy, which has this blurb at Amazon, from Publishers Weekly:

Thorne, the Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics at CalTech, here offers an accessible, deftly illustrated history of curved spacetime. Covering developments from Einstein to Hawking, he takes his readers to the very edge of theoretical physics: straight through wormholes--and maybe back again--past hyperspace, "hairless" wormholes and quantum foam to the leading questions that drive quantum physics. He even addresses the tabloid taunt that has tantalized him since 1988: Do quantum laws allow time travel? (In his foreword, Hawking suggests, "Maybe someone will come back from the future and tell us the answers.") Thorne is rigorous, modest and, true to the spirit of science, determined that readers move beyond the appeal of exotic answers and grasp the significance of quantum questions. This volume, a model of style, format and illustration, will speak eloquently to the readership, ranging widely in scientific literacy and interest, that such theoretical physics writers as Hawking and Feynman have established.

ETA: A quote from the first link, a NASA website:

From this question, Kip Thorne revitalized the whole modern field of the study of wormholes, a field which had lain dormant for a few decades until Thorne figured out how to make a wormhole people could actually travel through.

can I stir the pot with a few what-ifs?

What if the entire universe(s) was more multidimensional ... what we see as our universe was just a hologram of what really exists.

Maybe each universe is attached through dimensions that we cant see ( with our 3+1 goggles on ). Grant it I have no evidence ... but could black holes be a portal?

I guess one would need wormholes somehow.

Originally Posted by grapes

The way I heard the story (and a little googling bears me out), Carl Sagan was writing Contact, and asked Kip Thorne how to transport Ellie to distant stars and come back with no time passage, and Thorne came up with the old idea of wormholes. Thorne then went on to write a book, Black holes and Timewarps, Einstein's Outrageous Legacy, which has this blurb at Amazon, from Publishers Weekly:

ETA: A quote from the first link, a NASA website: