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    Quote Originally Posted by john_gabriel View Post
    If you discard time, then it will be easier to understand. Time does not exist without the physical universe. A point does not require time in order to be well defined.
    True, but it does require a point or instant of time, proving time must exist for it to be defined at all. If time does not exist, how could a point be defined?

    Even a point must have a shape, time required to create it.

    One cell splits into two, what is the math equation?

    A) 0+2 = 2
    B) 1+1 = 2
    C) Chance
    D) 1 = 2
    E) Other?

    Two cells, one enters the other, you can see the one cell inside the other, what is the math equation?

    A) 0+1=1
    B) 1-1 = 0
    C) Chance
    D) 2 = 1
    E) Other?

    As far as time without a physical universe, distance is the only guess I can come up with. Distance is difference, so is time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleftherios Karagiannis View Post
    True, but it does require a point or instant of time, proving time must exist for it to be defined at all. If time does not exist, how could a point be defined?
    A point is a location or a place. It does not require time to exist.

    Time requires movement and that's why time would not exist without a physical universe in which there is movement, even if only at the subatomic level.
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    Time and space are irrelevant to the universe. Even if you were blind, you'd still get hit by stuff ...
    (you just wouldn't be able to tell where it came from...
    Of course, in addition if you couldn't even feel it....
    (well, ok, sometimes you might be able to smell it coming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by john_gabriel View Post
    Hey! Just saw this now. Your Greek is not bad.

    και εγω ειμαι γερος. Τι να κανουμε; Ολοι μας θα πεθανουμε μια μερα.
    Youíre just being nice, which is nice. I graduated fourth grade Greek school damn it! The teacher would not be happy.

    Yes we will, Iím guessing back to where we came. I like guessing, if only that meant right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuleriaChk View Post
    (well, ok, sometimes you might be able to smell it coming...
    Especially after I finish a day’s work, I can smell where I was and where I am going! A dirty old man, dirtier and older by the second. But I enjoy the work, making old new again.
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_gabriel View Post
    A point is a location or a place. It does not require time to exist.

    Time requires movement and that's why time would not exist without a physical universe in which there is movement, even if only at the subatomic level.
    What about diamonds and gold, they don't change and time does not exist for them, if I understand correctly. But time still exists outside of them.

    Plus you are assuming nothing does not have a consciousness. I know it's crazy and stupid, but there is a reason for our beginning, if there was even one. In other words, the universe has always existed. What started our beginning? How could time even start if it did not always exist? I heard one that nothing is unstable. Something would have to exist to be stable or unstable, and nothing does not. The beginning and eternity makes me dizzy.
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

    If my thoughts are math, how can I be wrong?

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    WHAT?! No one knows the answer? I guess I forgive you.

    Shall we get back to math? I have far more to learn if I have even started.

    If I cut an apple into ten pieces, what is the math equation? No matter which piece I choose or how I choose to measure, one tenth is incorrect, without perfection. The correct equation cannot be known until after measurement; in other words, the correct math equation cannot be predicted.

    One minus one equals one plus one at ten different points in space, is a correct equation, and can be predicted, no measurement required. But what does that equation really tell me? The number of pieces? Anything else?

    Iím having a hard time making sense of both paragraphs.

    If I cut one apple in half, one divided by two is one equation, again perfection required, but there is another equation, one plus one equals two. Is that right?

    Consider fractals, if what I wrote above is right; is there another math equation to describe fractals?

    If I cannot cut an apple perfectly, can the universe? Could that be one possibility how math anomalies exist?
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

    If my thoughts are math, how can I be wrong?

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