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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    There is no true Absolute Zero.

    In order to reach Absolute Zero in a region anywhere within the Universe, all energy would need to be removed from that system. This means that the electron would halt it's movement around the proton of a hydrogen atom in that region of spacetime. It implies more than that, as well. Momentum AND position would both be defined at an Absolute Zero which contradicts the Uncertainty Principle. The removal of all energy from a system would wreak havoc on mass energy equivalence.
    Absolute Zero is Impossible given the properties of the Universe as defined.
    For this reason, we utilize the concept of zero-point energy.
    Zero-point energy is the lowest attainable energy state a system (Such as a hydrogen atom that has been supercooled) may have and still maintain its existence within the universe. The definition of "Absolute Zero" is then modified to mean the lowest limit a body can reach in temperature and still maintain enough energy to have movement and remain in definable physical existence.

    ETA To Clarify:
    You can define Absolute Zero as the total removal of all heat from a system
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    You can define Absolute Zero as the lowest Attainable temperature of a system (which makes it the single value on the entire scale that is an oddball.)
    That explanation was very helpful to me. I actually understand it. A rarity indeed.

    Thank you.
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

    If my thoughts are math, how can I be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleftherios Karagiannis View Post
    Thank you.
    You're welcome I am hopeful that it was helpful.
    Your online name here is very long.

    I tried to say it outloud and I injured myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    You're welcome I am hopeful that it was helpful.
    Your online name here is very long.

    I tried to say it outloud and I injured myself.
    I was born with it and it sounds like it is spelled.

    If it helps you can call me Fred, but what fun is that?
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

    If my thoughts are math, how can I be wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleftherios Karagiannis View Post
    I was born with it and it sounds like it is spelled.

    If it helps you can call me Fred, but what fun is that?
    It is LOTS of fun, Fred!
    I assure you, saying Fred is a ton of fun compared to me saying elfthcheerios...
    nutz
    Eleftears...no... Sigh
    Elefhant. NO!
    Eleftherios kardashian.
    *&%^^!!!!
    Eleftherios Karacardigan.

    Fred. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    It is LOTS of fun, Fred!
    I assure you, saying Fred is a ton of fun compared to me saying elfthcheerios...
    nutz
    Eleftears...no... Sigh
    Elefhant. NO!
    Eleftherios kardashian.
    *&%^^!!!!
    Eleftherios Karacardigan.

    Fred. :|
    You sound like the commercial about gyros.

    You missed some that I was called in school. Reminds me of one Seinfeld episode. I should not say more.
    Sometimes, the logical answer defies logic....Stupid accident.

    If my thoughts are math, how can I be wrong?

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    Don't worry, no one can make fun of the name Derf. I mean, Fred.
    --Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges--
    “Science needs the light of free expression to flourish. It depends on the fearless questioning of authority, and the open exchange of ideas.” ― Neil deGrasse Tyson

    "When photons interact with electrons, they are interacting with the charge around a "bare" mass, and thus the interaction is electromagnetic, hence light. This light slows the photon down." - BuleriaChk

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