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    Default Re: The energy that is lost in the interaction of matter and gravity with space

    Quote Originally Posted by BuleriaChk View Post
    When photons interact with electrons, they are interacting with the charge around a "bare" mass, and thus the interactionis electromagnetic, hence light. This light slows the photon down.
    .......WHAT!?
    No no nonononono, Seriously.... WHAT?!?!
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    A drop of water is a molecule with many atoms (not in a fixed lattice). c change because of interactions with electroms within the droplet (which have charges, and thus fields around them). The electromagnetic environment within a drop of water is more dense than that in the parking lot. This appears in a relativistic change in rest mass from ct to ct' (a new rest mass which encompasses the complete system of water +photon).
    Total Gibberish.
    You Dodged the question simply because you cannot answer it. I asked how you would calculate it. You dodged because you cannot calculate it, not with STR, not with GR, not with Classical Newtonian physics- Because a Photon has no rest mass. In other words, there is No Mathematical Model in existence that can calculate for the Acceleration of a Photon. Why? Because according to Einstein, they do not accelerate to 'c.' They have no rest mass. They cease to BE photons when they are in any energy state in which they travel at any velocity other than "c." THAT is the current mainstream Model.
    A whole lot of Smoke and mirrors which you concluded with talking about the Binomial Theorem.
    I think you need a break from the Binomial Theorem, Chuck. It's taken over your life; you are seeing it in everything.
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    Default Re: The energy that is lost in the interaction of matter and gravity with space

    The potential energy with which light interacts in a lens (lattice) is electromagnetic. A periodic potential energy (not mass, but electromagnetic).

    Sheesh! Photons have mass relativistically (equivalence of mass and energy). That's why different wavelengths have different energies. Planck's constant is an "action" constant, equivalent to energy by relativity. Electrons leave holes when ejected photo-electrically from a surface. These holes have charge.

    "rest" is a Newtonian/Galilean concept suggesting motion. Not relativistic in QFT (inside matter).

    Village Idiot. I'm outta here.... Neverfly is a pompous ignoramus. He has only a high school understanding of physics, if that.... (and a dumb high school student at that).
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    Default Re: The energy that is lost in the interaction of matter and gravity with space

    Quote Originally Posted by BuleriaChk View Post
    Sheesh! Photons have mass relativistically (equivalence of mass and energy). That's why different wavelengths have different energies. Planck's constant is an "action" constant, equivalent to energy by relativity. Electrons leave holes when ejected photo-electrically from a surface. These holes have charge.

    "rest" is a Newtonian/Galilean concept suggesting motion. Not relativistic in QFT (inside matter).

    Village Idiot. I'm outta here.... Neverfly is a pompous ignoramus. He has only a high school understanding of physics, if that.... (and a dumb high school student at that).
    Nice attempt at CYA googling and pasting. See my sig line.
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    "When photons interact with electrons, they are interacting with the charge around a "bare" mass, and thus the interaction is electromagnetic, hence light. This light slows the photon down." - BuleriaChk

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