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    Fiirst of all what you all call time is really not what it is . Thats one of the biggest problems in physics today,its really existence you cant travel thru time but you can travel thru existence time is only a locator, or indicator of where you are in existence. If one travels thru time that is if he could being he is mortal ,thats to say einstein was right,than if he traveled beyond when he was born or anytime past his death than he would cease to exist.....

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    Why even worry about other places in space, We dont have it together here yet why go out beyond. Look at the problems here on our on planet that we need to solve. like starvation,over population, global warming, greed ,hate ,i have all the answers........look at the money and resources thats wasted every year, hey dont block me you all will be missing out, im the greatest mind that has ever lived on this planet and probably will ever be......thanks ------ im sorry i was commenting on - could recent discoveries on the moon be a boost for human spaceflight.
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    I travel through time every day ....

    What cant happen is traveling backwards in time.

    In GR or SR you can travel forwards in time at a faster rate than others ... but traveling backwards in time is impossible.

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    Actually, at the micro-scale time appears to be symmetrical. Electrons can absorb photons they haven't emitted yet and Feynman diagrams can flow "backward" and "forwards" with equal ease. The directionality of time appears to be an epiphenomenal consequence of the current large scale organization of the cosmos. I spend a lot of time thinking about how things would look if we didn't put so much emphasis on time. In a way, QM makes us do this if we really consider multiple information states in superposition to be co-equal realities "out of time" that tumble, through decoherence, into specific, limited spatiotemporal manifestations. It's hard wrapping our heads around this because language and our symbol-forming capacities are all 'cooked" in a time-based, semantic kettle. But it's stimulating to try to work without time as a fundamental element of description and see what you come up with. Feynman tried it in 1947 with Wheeler, Milo Wolfe took up the challenge and now LaFreniere is doing some really good work on precessing Airy disks of time symmetric information.

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    I have traveled through time and space from 1986 to say this: Matter passing through space is my kinda time. Since the space time continuum is folded over and twisted on itself, couldn't it be possible to travel to the future or the past? I'm sure Tom will say to the future, but if I understand what Stuart is saying, and I'm not saying I am, we should theoretically be able to travel to both, especially since the past already exists at the odds of 1. Or maybe we can't because the past exists at the odds of 1 and the futures odds are infinite, until it happens, and then the odds of it happening are 1. Also, apparently rabbits are spheres, but I'm really bad at math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsandrocks View Post
    I have traveled through time and space from 1986 to say this: Matter passing through space is my kinda time. Since the space time continuum is folded over and twisted on itself, couldn't it be possible to travel to the future or the past? I'm sure Tom will say to the future, but if I understand what Stuart is saying, and I'm not saying I am, we should theoretically be able to travel to both, especially since the past already exists at the odds of 1. Or maybe we can't because the past exists at the odds of 1 and the futures odds are infinite, until it happens, and then the odds of it happening are 1. Also, apparently rabbits are spheres, but I'm really bad at math.
    Yes ... I also have thought similar things in the past and I cant say that I 100% disagree with you. But here are a few points. Your ( an observers ) perception of time continues to progress into the future at all points in space time. What does change is that relative to other points in time your time will flow differently than another observer. Another thing is that you cant see their time as going slower than stopped. So at all points their time is also moving forward ... although it can be moving forward at a rate faster or slower than yours.

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    But what if I am the only observer that matters? That only my relativity in time counts. That's what we are looking for in QM or even the search for god, right? The observer that affects the outcome simply by observing? Otherwise we are just dead/alive cats in a box. What if all that matters is me observing. Or in your case you. Almost a "you are all just my imagination" kind of scenario. Kind of. I can see my time in the past, I remember it. I know I can't see all of the universe's past from my current perspective, but as the only observer in existence (hypothetically) wouldn't that be what mattered? If I traveled back, the odds of me doing so, to me anyway, would be at 1. I know it was just wild conjecture to say that the Higgs-Boson was sabotaging the past to not be found, but was that based on any credible sources? I'll have to wiki that when I've had some sleep. It just seems a bit premature to me to to say that it's completely impossible to go to the past, while saying that it's possible to go to the future. I hope that makes almost as much sense as I think it does and doesn't reek of hubris or stupidity. I'm going to the future to wait for your response.

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    Your time ... even if you were going backwards in time would be going forwards.

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    I think my head just asploded.

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    Hahaha,I'm stuck in the present,at the moment. The only time I'm going faster than the speed of light, seems to happen in my dreams...the future and past exist together with smooth transitions from one to the other,then all at once,I'm falling like a bat out of Hell, and splatter myself right out of the slumber I was in.This usually takes place ,when my butt hit's the floor from ejecting myself off the bed ,upon impact ,in my dream... Oh Lord,I need some serious rest,Hahahaha Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin...Mind you,the house shakes and the dishes rattle ,when I do that particular roll out ...
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