Thread: are we part of or just "in" space?

do we [by we i mean all or most matter] exist as part of space ,it flows thru us as if we were not there, or do we displace space,like a fish in water?didn't einstien say we where merely spactialy extended.any evidence for either side?

I believe space and time actually came about with the Big Bang, and expands as the singularity does, so we are a part of space just as we are a small part of the singularity.

Effectively Ross is right. Space and time came about as a result of the Big Bang, and since space, time, and matter/energy were all a part of the singularity, we are a part of this "space" we often refer to. While we exist within the four dimensions we are aware of, we are still a part of the expanding singularity we know as the Universe.

Originally Posted by roncj5

do we [by we i mean all or most matter] exist as part of space ,it flows thru us as if we were not there, or do we displace space,like a fish in water?didn't einstien say we where merely spactialy extended.any evidence for either side?

Quick Answer: We are part of space since we're made up of molecules. In so-called empty space (which there is truly no such thing) atoms are about a meter apart, therefore it's just a matter of density, so we do and don't displace space. Space isn't empty, because it's full of virtual particles that pop in and out of existence. When cosmologists, theoretical and particle physicists try and calculate the energy level in a hydrogen atom, and they don't include those virtual particles, they get a wrong answer. One of the greatest developments in physics in the 20th century was to realize that when you incorporate special relativity in quantum mechanics you have virtual particles that can pop in and out of existence, and they change the nature of a hydrogen atom, because a hydrogen atom isn't just a proton and electron. Additionally, although this has nothing to do with your question, but, less than 10 percent of the mass of the entire universe consists of the kind of "luminous" matter that we can see.

Peace and God's Blessings....

We are part of space. All matter and energy of the "stuff" of the universe, including antimatter, etc. are an inclusive whole. We may represent unique compositions but the structural matter commanly exists.

ok,let me rephrase the question.i agree that we,as humans,are part of space.we are all star dust.as krauss put it so eliquintly"forget jesus,stars died so we could live".what i meant was on a atomic or quantumk level,does the"aether"pass through these objects or go around them?does it penetrate a nucleus or a quark or anything on these scales?

Originally Posted by roncj5

ok,let me rephrase the question.i agree that we,as humans,are part of space.we are all star dust.as krauss put it so eliquintly"forget jesus,stars died so we could live".what i meant was on a atomic or quantumk level,does the"aether"pass through these objects or go around them?does it penetrate a nucleus or a quark or anything on these scales?

There is no aether. Or exactly what are you refering to?

space is space ... the area between two objects. So ing that case we would be occupying space ...

ok,is the space in "space/time" the area between 2 objects?what i am getting at is a friend during a conversation said"if we exisist (on a quantum level) separate(meaning it "flows" around us.not thru us) from space,like a fish in water,then can we say that we are outside space/time?"this got me thinking.i know we are influenced,guided,ruled(however you want to put it) by space/time,but do we live in it?i get we occupy space,but are we displacing it?if we are,then are we not living outside space/time,yet still affected by it.and yes,i know there is no aether,bad choice of words.my bad.does any of this make sence or am i just babbling?

Think of it this way: yes, we exist in space-time, but we are also a part of it. At our most fundamental scale, there isn't much of a division between me and the computer I'm typing on. Since both are chiefly empty space, there isn't a specific dividing line at certain scales. Space-time then "passes through" all things because it is basically an absolute reference (although light is more of an absolute). So there is space-time between every atom and quark in your body. And since space-time is quantized as well, it makes it even more interesting.

ok i need to think about this one for awhile.thank you all for helping.