Quote Originally Posted by tom View Post
Or would they just say that the big bang is when our entire visible universe was all in the same microscopic place.
That seems likely. And 'they' would have to logically deduce the next step would be for it to radiate outwards, and with all that E I'm sure the rate wouldn't be a slow one.

Out of the four forces of nature, strong/weak nuclear forces, electromagnetism, and gravity... are they strong enough to hold all that E together? Or do you think POSSIBLY there was another at play? I caught myself, I was going to say, "at that time" - but there was no space and no matter so there was no time. But what if...?