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    Default Re: Big bang and 4d blackhole is not true tell me why.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    So msgs 82 - 86 did not exist. Or you changed your mind since then. Did u forget to delete, the fact where u say dark matter and energy exists as well as inflation. Did you forget what u belived in??
    Not only do they exist, but any reader reading my posts can easily see that they are consistent.
    The only problem with your perception here is that you seem to be incapable of comprehending the difference between accepting evidence and building a MODEL... and assigning faithful belief.
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    Tired of arguing dark matter is in your universe. Then you say you dont believe in dark matter or dark energy? Inflation also exists in your opinion. So would that also include the inflation field. Clarification please??

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    Tired of arguing dark matter is in your universe. Then you say you dont believe in dark matter or dark energy? Inflation also exists in your opinion. So would that also include the inflation field. Clarification please??
    How much more clear can I get?
    I can tell you what the Model represents, what it says and what it predicts. Not I nor anyone else can tell you the reality, the real nature of the Universe.
    Our models are formed, developed and tested to give us as accurate a picture as possible given current observation and technological level. We know that as technology increases and observation becomes finer, we will modify or even replace the models of today.
    That is why it is not the same thing as saying something is real, does exist or the same thing as Faithful Belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    How much more clear can I get?
    I can tell you what the Model represents, what it says and what it predicts. Not I nor anyone else can tell you the reality, the real nature of the Universe.
    Our models are formed, developed and tested to give us as accurate a picture as possible given current observation and technological level. We know that as technology increases and observation becomes finer, we will modify or even replace the models of today.
    That is why it is not the same thing as saying something is real, does exist or the same thing as Faithful Belief.
    I mostly agree with that statement. The problem I have is how long it takes to see and prove something. Eighstien would have done so much with the tech out now. Also because other scientist are not fully proven as good logical scientist, they are not taken seriously.

    So lets make this easy. There is a problem without a solution. You solve it, but many people disagree. They disagree because it is different. If your name was Eighstien they might have taken you seriously. Slow process for you to get taken seriosly. This applies even for Einstein. Tech is getting faster, but they still dont believe in your ideas.

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    That is why it is not the same thing as saying something is real, does exist or the same thing as Faithful Belief.

    You said this. My opinion only.
    Have you ever seen the movie "The man who knew infinitely". Good movie.
    He walked on the same grass Newton and other names walked on. Dont want to spoil the movie but it was a good watch.

    We know certain things we dont know other things but its time for a change. Our current standard theory needs modification. With proof of course, just taking to long, in my opinion.

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    If the math works, the math works. People do not "disbelieve math because it is different."
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    So in that movie before he died he told u where the math came from. Hmmmm.? Cant remember what did he say.

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    So in that movie before he died he told u where the math came from. Hmmmm.? Cant remember what did he say.
    I don't know. Never saw the movie. We are talking about Science, here, not Hollywood.

    According to the Transformers Movie, Alien Robots can make High Rise Buildings lie down flat. In physics, that is nonsense. A high Rise building can weigh in at hundreds of millions of pounds! There is only One Direction that kind of mass can go in: Straight Down. But you see, Micheal bay, the producer, is a rabid Conspiracy Claimant and uses his movies to promote Bad Science to make his Conspiracy claims look more laudable.
    According to the Movie, "The Smurfs..." little magical blue people are the victims of an alchemist.
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