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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    #2 I honestly only half understand this hydrogen to helium fraction that proves to u the universe was created, or started. Hence there was a bang but this never made the universe. Again the universe is infinate, can u record infanate. Without breaking the barriers of science nothing would gave been discovered.
    My point was that the hydrogen to helium ratio is consistent with the Big Bang Theory. If you have another idea, letīs hear it. However, make sure it also explains the hydrogen to helium ratio of about 4:1, otherwise it is a non-starter; as is the infinite universe idea. In an infinite universe the hydron to helium ration would be no more than 1:1 since there would be enough main sequence stars to burn the hydrogen to helium to no more that 1:1. Much more hydrogen than helium (as is observed) says that the universe is *not* infinite.
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    3 our part of the universe is expanding u mean. We know of 100 million or billion galaxies right. Is there a wall beyond that, my college professor tried to tell me that. A while later the same science disproved him.
    What science? Do you have a reference? (I doubt it.)

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    So lets say u travel past out cluster of galaxy's what would u reach if it doesnt end. Another cluster of galaxies.
    Letīs just say we accept observations as fact.
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    4 sounds worse than 3. Lol. No wall exists. On the outer edge of your universe what would happen if u took a ship past it.??
    What makes you believe that you can? Certainly not the fact that since the blackbody radiation exists and indicates a boundary.

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    Again your trying to prove something that u have heard before in the past. Our science is only as good as the year it was made. Or you would be telling me some other bad redirect like the earth is flat or square or that space has a wall. Smh
    Actually what I am quoting is valid as of 31 Oct 2015. What you are presenting... well itīs not science.
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    My theory continued.
    Every center of a galxay has a black whole, true? What we know about our part of the universe its vast and growing but theres an end to it. If you can see an end why would it be infinate u ask.
    The problem with this kind of logic is as follows:
    You see a car accelerating at 10 m/s/s. After 2 s it has a speed of 20 m/s because . So *you* conclude that after 300ī000ī000 s it *must* be going faster than the speed of light. The problem is that there is an upper boundary to the speed imposed by Relativity. By analogy the universe can also not be infinite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Kg4 some good points. Although i knew most of them. Our part of the universe is growing very true. But the big bang of our part of the universe caused a hmm lets call it a blast glow bubble. This means we cant see past the bubble of our creation bubble in our part of the universe. Google it.
    If it is so easy to Google, post the link or even the Google search linkl. You havenīt, so it doesnīt exist. I know, I studied the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Also one more point on this. If we look at the stars we see light. If there is light from a star past/blocking that same star ok. But how can we see stars blocking stars blocking stars to the power of infinite.? Y do we have satelites that discover more stars that we couldnt see.? Google it.
    That makes no sense. Besides, if it can be Googled, why donīt *you* post the link? Perhaps because Google would prove you wrong?
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    Kg4 i like the fact that u put link didnt check them out yet.
    Actually I check out every link I post.

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    Albert Einstein AE for short was one of the founders for the big bang theory. I could be wrong on this.
    You are. The Big Bang Theory was presented by Georges Lemaitre. The name ĻBig Bang TheoryĻ came out the the Gamow-Hoyle debates. It was applied by Fred Hoyle to poke fun at the idea of a bounded universe. As it turns out subsequent data showed Gamow to be right even though he wasnīt as good at math as Hoyle. Nevertheless, Hoyleīs idea of elemental synthesis in stars has prevailed event though he was wrong on the infinite universe.

    Einsteinīs contribution to the Big Bang Theory is just that his idea of gravity explains a lot of what is observed. He did not come up with the Big Bang Theory; in fact he really didnīt believe in it until Edwin Hubble showed data for the expansion of the universe.

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    However u cant argue he was smarter than almost anyone on earth now.
    Thatīs not my argument. I argue that *you* are not smarter than observed facts/data. Until your idea conforms to the observed data, your idea is irrelevant.

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    I could say the same bout Tesla.
    Tesla was not an astronomer...and he nothing to say about the origin of the universe or the size thereof.

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    Anyway AE also had other theories.
    I know: photonic theory (for which he received the Nobel Prize), Brownian motion, and others.

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    My original thoery changed because i found his was good but just needed improvement further development.
    What improvement? Remember itīs not an improvement if it does not include observed facts/data. If it does not include observed facts/data, then it is not science, it is religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    AE theorized that a blackhole (created by a large stars supernova) has a tunnel its a wormhole.
    Wrong. The metrics for a black hole and wormhole are completely different. Thus a black hole and wormhole are two different phenomena. There never has been any demonstration that black holes and wormholes are in any way connected.

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    We know gravity controls/adjusts time.
    Weeelllll... Time dilates near a black hole like space dilates.

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    So i say wormholes can keep all crushed ip planets inside it at a pause due to gravity.
    You will need to show that for me to believe it. Start with the wormhole metric and then mathematically show that the planets can be kept inside it Ļall crushed upĻ. An easy approach is to use Killing vectors, but I donīt see how your conclusion follows.

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    I will say this again nothing can be destroyed.


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    AE split an atom in half ot created a massive explosion right.
    No. Einstein never split atoms. That was Otto Hahn and Liese Meitner.

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    But does the 2 halves still exists?
    Yes. But the 2 halves have gained more mass together than the original atom. Do you remember why? (I doubt it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Quasars are interesting anomalies.) i though origanally that 2 blackholes come together and make a BANG lol. AE has another enlightening idea . Whiteholes. Google it.
    Actually Einstein never proposed white holes. The idea of white holes came from Penrose diagrams and symmetry arguments. However no white holes have ever been observed and it is unlikely that they have ever existed since they require negative mass.

    You keep saying ĻGoogle itĻ. *You* Google it and post the link. What you are doing is not scientific. It is in fact idiotic.

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    So when 2 blackholes join (quasar) we get a release of all the stuff they gobbled up depending on the polarity.
    No. Best evidence is that quasars are a kind of active galaxy that existed in the early universe (remember that quasars have huge red shifts, thus they are far away).

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    Yes another AE theory blackholes have a polarity.
    Clearly you have not studied Relativity.

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    This can change behavior of a quasar. My theory right now is basic multiplying math 2 negative make a positive a whitehole very rare and violent 2min duration dont know y.
    You really ought to start with a course in Relativity so that you will know what you are talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    This is what we call big bang. All other combinations make m613 may have mispelled that trying to say the quasar that we have now the one that is producing stars the brightest thing in our 'known' universe lol.
    First of all, there are only 110 objects on the Messier list, so m613 does not exist. Yes quasars are bright, which is part of the reason they are used to define the ICRF (Google it!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by kg4pae View Post
    My point was that the hydrogen to helium ratio is consistent with the Big Bang Theory. If you have another idea, letīs hear it. However, make sure it also explains the hydrogen to helium ratio of about 4:1, otherwise it is a non-starter; as is the infinite universe idea. In an infinite universe the hydron to helium ration would be no more than 1:1 since there would be enough main sequence stars to burn the hydrogen to helium to no more that 1:1. Much more hydrogen than helium (as is observed) says that the universe is *not* infinite.
    Unfortunately your whole opinion on this is a non starter. You actually have good evedece
    that proves nothing if I am right. Your vision of the universe is like an infinity small bubble in our sea. Outside that bubble exists much more. Just because science directs u to one opinion, it doesn't mean you should stop thinking logically. Hey I never asked you do u believe one super compressed partical made the universe???

    Try YouTube white hole and start from there.
    Last edited by Jason me; 11-15-2015 at 03:17 AM.

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