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    Posting a third post in a row with an after-thought:
    If the powers that be elected to rename "gravity" something more like the topic at hand, let's say it's named "Dark Attractor," how would that effect your attitude towards the concept of Gravity?
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    Well. You cant say I never tried Neverfly. Sure we know how to put trajectories into action. Does that mean we know how OUR part of what we call the universe works, or would you say we know enough about the universe to not doubt the current theory. No u would never say that right.

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    The current theory of the universe is wrong. Of course not everthing is wrong. You are right I need to learn more and I am willing. Although your model can not get criticized? Much of it in my opionion is correct, but are we not suppose to build on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    Well. You cant say I never tried Neverfly. Sure we know how to put trajectories into action. Does that mean we know how OUR part of what we call the universe works, or would you say we know enough about the universe to not doubt the current theory. No u would never say that right.
    I would say that we can be confident in many of our models. But it's a different thing to "be confident In" and to "Believe in."
    To believe in something is often an act of faith. To be confident in something often means it's 'tried and true.'
    We can never really "Know enough..." But we can be responsible for what we have learned so far.
    We have technology today that relies on what we know so far. This does not mean we know how everything works. But it demonstrates that when we have a working model, it's pretty solid.

    We do not know about Dark Energy or Dark Matter. They are hypothetical and are included in our models in order to account for that Place, that Problem - The model is still good, even if a couple of the components in it are hypothetical, because if we did find out what Dark Matter was, that would take the place of the hypothetical "dark matter" in the model and move on from there.

    You are right, I would not say that we know enough to eliminate doubt. But you can be confident and still hold doubt. You can test, poke and prod and see if the model withstands that doubt. You will be confident if it does... but if you still have some doubt, test it some more... and so on.
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    Did u vote Trump?? Dont worry it will go away. Unfortunately it will take 4 years. Lol

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    Your last two posts make absolutely no sense, whatsoever. Are you trying to somehow pretend my response in post number 14 was "upset?"
    Because there is nothing in it that says, "upset" in any way, at all.
    Try reading it again. This time, with your brain switched to the "on" position.
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    U got mad earlier and i did not refresh the page. That does not forgive your actions before because you are reasonable now. Do you agree or disagree. Its not cool to pop off all the time. I ask for restraint, before u judge. Look for the science in every comment before bashing the oppenent please. That applies to everone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason me View Post
    U got mad earlier and i did not refresh the page. That does not forgive your actions before because you are reasonable now. Do you agree or disagree. Its not cool to pop off all the time. I ask for restraint, before u judge. Look for the science in every comment before bashing the oppenent please. That applies to everone.
    In what post did I get mad and pop off?
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    Defiantly number 9 possibly 10 and 11. 10 and 11 its more if an assumption that i know little to nothing which may be a fair assumption. Although u do know what they say about assuming things. 9 though for sure u were pissed right?

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